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Offense / Defense Village Build

DeletedUser1330

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So basically for every full defensive built you need 3 nukes to clear it ? o_O
 

DeletedUser430

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So far 2 - 2 1/2 nukes depending on the build and wall of that village. I'm getting close in test of breaking that wall :). Once that wall is down it's fair game. Also most of these test are done without paladin and weapons.
 

DeletedUser

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Elphin;n16737 said:
The berserkers caused pretty much the same damage as axeman despit being outnumbered. Do the double bonus strength actually work?

fyi if you are wondering why the berserkers didnt cause more damage it is because they werent overpowered.... (there is such a thing as to much of a good thing)

3250*300=975,000 (Berserker offensive power)
3250*200=650,000 (HC deffensive power)

if you were to lower the number of Berserkers to 2100 then the affect would kick in
2100*300*2=1,260,000 (1,260,000 * 0.94) = 1,184,400
3250*200=650,000 (650,000 * 2.2) = 1,430,000

Yet again the Berserkers would loose (do to lvl 20 wall) but would inflict great damage
 

DeletedUser430

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DeathAngle thank you for pointing that out. I have been trying to search for a combination that will break through a level 20 wall for the past 4 days now. There has to be one combination!
 

DeletedUser

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2100*300*2=1,260,000 (1,260,000 * 1 (hopfully)) = 1,260,000 (1,260,000 *1.3 (Paladin lvl 3 Axe = 1,638,000)
3250*200 = 650,000 (650,000 * 2 (how the hell did you manage to get 220% up there, i thought 200 was the most?) 1,300,000

1,638,000 Offence
1,300,000 Deffence

You would win in 1 attack, your welcome ;)
 

DeletedUser1288

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DeathAngle;n17276 said:
2100*300*2=1,260,000 (1,260,000 * 1 (hopfully)) = 1,260,000 (1,260,000 *1.3 (Paladin lvl 3 Axe = 1,638,000)
3250*200 = 650,000 (650,000 * 2 (how the hell did you manage to get 220% up there, i thought 200 was the most?) 1,300,000

1,638,000 Offence
1,300,000 Deffence

You would win in 1 attack, your welcome ;)
Coolnight could you run test on these numbers with rams and without rams. Thanks:)
 

DeletedUser

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Actually now that I look at this the paladin axe wouldnt probably affect the beserkers but you should be able to come real close to winning, maybe with some axe/beserker combo, I will post below if I think of one
 

DeletedUser430

Guest
Yeah that combination needs a lot more help. I think axes and beserkers would be best.
 

DeletedUser

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Sadly there is no combo that I could find that will beat 2100 Beserkers (without the paladin thing) Feel free to test out 2100 Beserkers vs 3250 hc (without rams or paladin) and the result should be pretty good but beserkers are expensive and take forever to make.
 

DeletedUser430

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DeathAngle;n17344 said:
Sadly there is no combo that I could find that will beat 2100 Beserkers (without the paladin thing) Feel free to test out 2100 Beserkers vs 3250 hc (without rams or paladin) and the result should be pretty good but beserkers are expensive and take forever to make.
I tested that already and the result was not as good as I thought. When I do the math it all adds up just was you did however on a level 20 wall with or without paladin did not do as much damage as I thought. I'll post screenshots within the next day or so been up all day with the little one.
 

DeletedUser430

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Wall 20:
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Wall 0:
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***Updated***
So I just tested HC vs Beserkers 1 on 1:

Wall 0:
It take takes 3 HC to win against 1 Beserker

Wall 20:
It takes 7 Beserkers to win against 1 HC
 

DeletedUser

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I can explain all of this...
2100*300=630,000
3250*200=650,000

***THE BESERKERS WERE OUTNUMBERED BUT THE BONUS DIDNT GO INTO AFFECT WHAT THE HELL???***

630,000*0.9=567,000
650,000*2.0=1,300,000

(567,000/1,300,000)^.5/(1,300,000/567,000)=0.288
0.288*3250=936

I have predicted the result of the first battle with a 99% accuracy

So long story short there is a bug

Logically the beserkers should have double strength since they were outnumbered but as you can see that is not what happened, the battle executed as if the beserkers were stronger
 

DeletedUser430

Guest
I just ran a few more test and there does seem to be a bug within the luck system. If I can get others to post a report on any attack so that I can verify this I might be able to pin point the problem.

If you post report please whiteout troops and village coordinates.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
I have a Beserker simulator question if you have a moment coolnite. In a world prior to everyone having full nukes or full defenses, but where the offensive army is stronger than the defense, would the attack be stronger if you break the beserkers & rams into a 1st attack wave reducing the attack strength to get the beserker bonus, with the ax & lc following in a second wave. At first I didnt think this would work, but the generic simulator does show it to be effective. Can you test it out and see if you get the similar results.

I used the following conditions:
Offense, 2000 ax, 1000 lc, 200 rams, 400 beserkers
Defense 2000 sp, 2000 sw, 500 archers
20 wall, 100% faith, 100% moral

1st sim attack with all units.
2nd sim with the beserkers & rams together, followed by an attack of ax and lc.

Thanks!
 

DeletedUser299

Guest
Hey coolnite, out of interest how are you running all these sims? Do you have access to a test game world where you can just generate whatever troops you want in zero time?
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Coolnite i dont see a bug with the luck system. I said there was a bug with the Beserker special ability...
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Coolnite (or anyone willing to do it)
Could you please do 2 attacks as a test
On the first attack have the attacker have 300 rams (against a lvl 20 wall) and whatever attackers/deffenders you would like (as long as they are equal in provisions)
For the second attack do the same EXACT thing EXCEPT dont have any seige weapons of any kind.
I really need this tested within the next 3 days please
 

DeletedUser

Guest
We will find out in half an hour but please tell me that im not the only one who is noticing the thing with the Beserkers. They will be vital in an attack im going to do soon and if they fail me I am screwed
 

DeletedUser

Guest
It keeps on telling me that the file exceeds the limit so....

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I dont know what is wrong with your reports but mine worked out how they were supposed to

1*300=300
2*200=400

300*2*1.13=678
400*1.1=440

(440/678)^.5/(678/440)=0.52
0.52*1=0.52
0.52(rounded to the nearest whole) = 1

The effect kicked in and the luck worked correctly
 
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