BzB vs TDB

[DeletedUser]

Its been going for quite a long time now actually

 

[DeletedUser]

Yeah, to be honest I didn't think that we would last this long, but it's in fact been quite an even fight

 

[DeletedUser]

BzB
Rank 4 ( no change)
Members: 112 (+3)
Villages: 1,647 (+409)
Points: 9,661,218 (+3,301,793)
ppm: 86,261 (+27,918)
Obash: 11,603,478 (+4,610,488)
Dbash: 19,666,764 (+7,972,361)
Tbash: 31,270,242 (+12,582,849)

vrs

TDB
Rank 3 (No change)
Members: 72 (no change)
Villages: 1,531 (+196)
POints: 10,613,478 (+1,903,294)
Obash: 19,815,594 (+4,899,941)
Dbash: 7,329,581 (+2,897,412)
Tbash: 27,145,175 (+7,797,353)

Spoiler: map

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Been a while since I did this but, this update should give a good idea of the changes on this fight.
Looks like bzb is growing "faster" then TDB. 2x as many villages, and 1.5x as many points. The thing is tdb grew without recruiting, which means their growth is organic. While bzb didn't recruit alot of people, it makes their growth less organic.

Other interesting points is the Obash vrs Dbash for both tribes. TDB Obash vrs bzb Obash is almost 1:1 but the Dbash on bzb is much greater. The looks like TDB is throwing alot at BzB and BZB is killing as much as its losing. Where as BZB's offensives aren't being killed off as easily, or arnt against TDB. So is bzb targeting someone else during this war?

 

[DeletedUser]

@Dauthi You are right about 1 thing,we aint losing much when attacked cus either they hit with quite the stupid nukes(yes i have indeed seen really stupid ones that even had D.troops in em),or they didnt send that much so our well defended vills killed them off easily..they hit a lot harder 2-3 weeks ago than they do now(some members still hit hard thou )..also as far as i know BzB has always had atleast 1 other enemy besides us,used to be BTF/BTH soo i guess its B-H now..idk.

Also you made a type the O.Bash:O.Bash thing isnt even remotely close to 1:1 we are close to 20m while they are on 12m,think you took our O.bash and their D.bash
They do have some good members thou,which i think are the ones either hitting hard or tanking hard..

As far as recruitment goes we are actually losing(well eating) members than gaining new ones..i htink at this point only way to get close to BzB members is through some hard as fck merge with some elite folks..otherwise doubt we gonna hit 80 peeps soon.

 

[DeletedUser]

The obashbash comment is in regards to "growth of bash" not total bash.

As for recruiting, thats cool up to you guys how you want to play Personally I feel growing with out recruiting is better then growing only because you recruited. In the corporate world when you increase you business with out buying/acquiring someone else its called growing organically. The idea is your pulling customer away from your competitions, in this case growing organically would be when you don't recruit new members or you lose members yet still gain more villages. Its why I said it looks like TBD is growing more organically than BzB

 

[DeletedUser3101]

BZB is not only in war with TDB. almost all other tribes on the borders of BZB thought that BZB was an easy target.

B-H is also targeted by BZB and loose villages. Compare the bash points between BZB and TDB is not fair.

And don't forget that BZB's are all situated on the border of this world. We started almost 1 month later than the tribes B-H and TDB.
This means that we in the beginning of this wars not have full nukes and so on. And to get some massives, ofcourse we noble some barbs.
However, when we count our villages we loose to TDB and B-H...... We take more then we loose.

 

[DeletedUser2616]

BZB is not only in war with TDB. almost all other tribes on the borders of BZB thought that BZB was an easy target.

B-H is also targeted by BZB and loose villages. Compare the bash points between BZB and TDB is not fair.

And don't forget that BZB's are all situated on the border of this world. We started almost 1 month later than the tribes B-H and TDB.
This means that we in the beginning of this wars not have full nukes and so on. And to get some massives, ofcourse we noble some barbs.
However, when we count our villages we loose to TDB and B-H...... We take more then we loose.

expanding on that point, B-H isn't only at war with RLP. But it's also too much effort to find out where every single tribe stands in their diplomacy. So if i made the threads i would've done the same as Dauthi and gone with the main opponents in each war.

 

[DeletedUser]

This world is now about 4 months old. So you started 3 months ago and did not get full nukes until now?

 

[DeletedUser]

That's not what he means XD But more like that we got full nukes after everyone else, and we're still doing ok

 

[DeletedUser]

Too bad, I liked my version better
I also started a month after everyone else and am still top 40 though.

 

[DeletedUser2616]

I had no activity in october, i'm already in the top 25 for offensive bash and still have plenty of nukes to burn

 

[DeletedUser1717]

Seems to be similar to the RLP and B-H situation, neither side is really making ground against the other.

in your area maybe but we have captured in my area like 40 villas of rlp in last 4 1/2 days and they have taken ummmm zero lol damn turtles

 

[DeletedUser2616]

in your area maybe but we have captured in my area like 40 villas of rlp in last 4 1/2 days and they have taken ummmm zero lol damn turtles

that was an outdated response though, at the time it was true. in my area both tribes have gained and lost, admittedly their gains were by targeting our inactives or sniping bases we took from twh

 

[DeletedUser2754]

that was an outdated response though, at the time it was true. in my area both tribes have gained and lost, admittedly their gains were by targeting our inactives or sniping bases we took from twh

The inactives count as much as any other players. If you don't want them to count noble them or dismiss them.
If you can't noble them because they aren't neither active or inactive, that's another story. Those are the worst kind of players, they are a liability to the good players in the tribe because they can't attack them (they are tribemates) and they are a way for the enemy to put a foot in your province. That's why the mass invite thing never works. It seems easy at first to build a big tribe but in the end all those small players are in fact a mine field you're building against yourself in your own territory.

 

[DeletedUser]

I do believe hiba nailed it on the head, there.

 

[DeletedUser2616]

The inactives count as much as any other players. If you don't want them to count noble them or dismiss them.
If you can't noble them because they aren't neither active or inactive, that's another story. Those are the worst kind of players, they are a liability to the good players in the tribe because they can't attack them (they are tribemates) and they are a way for the enemy to put a foot in your province. That's why the mass invite thing never works. It seems easy at first to build a big tribe but in the end all those small players are in fact a mine field you're building against yourself in your own territory.

The inactives targeted were ones i was working on, but i was a bit too slow because i was also in the process of reviving my account

 

[DeletedUser]

Reviving? lol, try recovering from 3 villages.
I did

 

[DeletedUser2616]

I recovered from 6

 

[DeletedUser]

That means I'm twice as good as you

 

[DeletedUser3101]

BzB
Rank 4 // 3 // +1
Members: 109 // 108 // -1
Villages: 1,238 // 4.186 // +2.948
Points: 6,359,425 // 32.125.819 // +25.766.394
PPM: 58,343 // 297.461 // +239.118
Obash: 6,992,990 // 68.616.731 // +61.623.741
Dbash: 11,694,403 // 68.201.793 // +56.507.390
Tbash: 18,687,393 // 136.818.524 // +118.131.131

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TDB
Rank 3 // 5 // -2
members: 72 // 28 // -44
Villages: 1,335 // 1.225 // -110
Points: 8,710,184 // 9.624.789 // +914.605
PPm: 120,975 // 343.742 // +222.767
Obash: 14,915,653 // 25.305.688 // +10.390.035
Dbash: 4,432,169 // 17.837.122 // +13.404.953
Tbash: 19,347,822 // 43.142.810 // +23.794.988