You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but just remember, sometimes opinions can be wrong! I just find it funny how you try to control and influence everyone's mind to HATE yatogami because he uses strategy which you seem to have gotten the other end of the strategy... so remind me again who's being manipulative now?
It is in no way anyone's best interest to halt all wars and focus on kings. My tribe would have to travel countless days and over AOW to attack kings and that is NOT a realistic expectation at this time so I will NOT be rallying my tribe because of it, so I will have to pass.
Are you sure he's directed this world from Day 1 from the forums? How can you control an entire world when only a fraction, and by fraction, I mean i can count the number of people from EN2 that comment on these boards on ONE hand. That being said, I don't think a forum post on externals is the best way to go about rallying people of EN2 to take yato and kings down.... especially since no one is really here from our world.
I guess the bottom line is you're just jealous yato's more strategic than you and you can't get over it!
You have absolutely NO IDEA of what you are talking about. Period. You speak - with opinion, without knowing the whole story.
So, here it is, see if you can read this much:
I've played other games like this, namely Grepolis - twice, a bad of a time-eater as this game is if you want to play it write, and it has all the backstabbing and spying as this one, and maybe even more aggressively. Grepolis is actully more of a war-game than this one anyhow, as this one is 99% taking barbs and idles - and then thinking you are some sort of strategic-GOD for doing it when you city count is up. Bull! King and damn near everyone else in this world was a barb-taker & idle-taker. War!? What wars? You mean AFTER people build up 50+ villages from barb/idle taking - with the occasional "let's hit Mr. once-every-3-day-logger?"
Kings was this way, and Yatogami specifically. - Heck, they still are.. What, don't you think I know how to check stat-sites? That I cannot see who's idle from within Kings? How many 100's, perhaps 1000's of villages did they get due to idle within them - or other tribes? War-game, pfft, give me a break.
After playing Grepolis, and seeing both how much time it ate up and how it drove people crazy with ego-complexes; Spies within tribes/guilds, back-stabbing, lies, broken treaties, tribe-hoppers, self-preservation artists (at the expense of tribe-mates), etc. - I resolved not to play these games anymore.
I was leader in both Grepolis games I played, and did extremely well both times. Both for all my guild-mates (tribe) and in alliances, etc. Always with the biggest and baddest guild, or at least holding off the biggest and baddest at every turn.
I play other InnoGames games, and saw a banner ad for "Tribal Wars" on one of the, and figured, I'd give it a shot, "As long as it was not like Grepolis." -- It turns out it is almost exactly like Grepolis, but even more ridiculous. I mean, come on, all land filled with villages, barbs, etc. -- Nothing else! .. OMG, what a laugh. Yeah, that just what I wanted, to get into another HALF-DECADE game, and burn my life away on it. lol.. Nope. But the trouble is, is that I am - AND IT SHOULD BE VERY CLEAR BY NOW - ONE STUBBORN - When I saw that it was like Grepolis, I knew exactly what had to be done. - Since I came into the world by myself -- I needed a tribe. So I started one: "Defiance"
Since I knew no one, I MRA'd .. Basically the ONLY way a player like me could have survived. But that wasn't the only reason. I also scoped out the area, and saw GoW (now AoW) all over the place. Not only in ONE tribe, but with 4 sister tribes! Nearly 800 people, and more than likely going to go for a 5th tribe. Are you freakin' serious!? Someone had to oppose that, if only out of self-preservation .. But to tell you the truth, when I saw someone "recruiting" the whole server, I set up Defiance as opposition to GoW/AoW.
In Defiance, we never attacked ANYONE who didn't attack us first. Period! There was no need to, people were stupid enough to attack us, and when they did that, we retaliated. As time progressed, AoW was still growing, and not only actively recruiting 4 to 5 tribes under the banner of AoW, but also actively setting up alliances with anyone that they could. All surrounding my tribe. -- This needed to be countered. So, one of our allies was WoT (Wheel of Time) and we eventually formed a 1-tribe out of both Defiance and WoT. -- Oh, did I mention, I was the founder and head of all this and doing all the freakin' work!? 18-hours a day sometimes sitting at this stupid game!? -- We had voice comms (no, not Skype, that's for amateurs) but TeamSpeak. We held regular meetings, etc. Our strategy in the early days, was to leave as many barbs as we can so we could farm them. I mean, heck, there's no harm in leaving barbs laying around! Right? I mean, if someone were to try to take over a barb, we'd be on them in a minute. And there's nothing they could do when they took a barb, as it would take them so much time to get a Church up (building the farm level, HQ, etc. before they could even begin to think about building a Church), that they would be no threat, as we'd jump on them and take it right back. We'd have the advantage of full-faith, and they wouldn't. Simple as that. A sitting duck for us.
So, as I see AoW building and growing, I start to contact people in the area - from other tribes, to try to build up some sort of alliance to this very large and highly aggressive tribe. I contact a few, make some more alliances, etc. -- The whole goal as being opposition to AoW. I also, contact Kings. Trying to get them to join in. They dragged their feet, complaining about "trust" and "in-time," and they have to "see," etc. All the while Kings was setting up north of us, by Mr. Yatogummy-bear and a few of his friends, doing long-distance barb-nobling and expanding from there.
Oh, did I also mention that we OWNED the ENTIRE North and East by this time? And that it was also in the works, to ally with BBK, and whomever is out west, I forget.. T.W or something like that. After we merged Defiance and Wheel of Time - we called ourselves, "The Shields" - Shield North & Shield East, and we were well on our way of getting Shield South & Shield West -- All to halt AoW/GoW!
Now we owned all the world, under my leadership, except the South-West (too far at that time to worry about it - But would have gotten there eventually) and the Center (which was GoW/AoW). Now we were set to be an enormous counter to the 3 or 4 tribes of GoW/AoW.
But back to Yatogummy-bear and his "Kings" (lol, named after an anime "K" series, K: Missing Kings, etc. - of which Yatogummy-bear is a main character... gotta love that anime .. Not!, lol, I'm not that young. But whatever, my girlfriend's daughter got into the same trend -- I guess all young kiddies and children do). .. Anyhow, Kings, with their buddy ScienceReligion whom I also contacted on DAY-1 of this world, when he and I only had 1 village of equal size, and asked him to join in Defiance also, then proceeded to have a nice conversation with - but he declined. And when to House of Medici before forming his own when things when sour in HoM. So, you got Yato positioning himself from South of us, to then long-distance nobling and setting up NORTH of us, which was very unacceptable to us, as our whole strategy from day was was to gain the entire North-East (but so was Yato's & SciRel's - hense the initial friction) - However, both Yato & SciRel were not AoW .. So I had no beef with them. I asked them to join up in this alliance that I was forming againt AoW - but as I said, they dragged their feet. -- Which, considering both Yato's size and SciRel's was making us nervous.
During this time, Kings only had like 10 players in it, and Yato was ll over the forums proclaiming how "Elite" his tribe was and how all MRA's are bad and don't know how to play, and how he hates MRAs and how he's so glad that there were tribes like his with "Elite" players and blah, blah, blah, all that other hogwash he was trying to sell -and did, successfully, which is what I've been trying to say. He's full of it! He's only self-serving & Ego-Feeding ... Because there WAS already and alliance set up againt GoW/AoW .. MINE!!!! THREE-QUARTERS of the World strong and growing! All to set up and fight AoW/GoW... Made by ME!
So, Yato was flanking us, and SciRel was a heavy force to our South/East of our tribe ... Both Yato & Sci's tribe were near AoW at the time. It was The Shield's up north and East, then moving inward, there was - In the East Sci's tribe, then further in it was AoW near the center. Then from north it was the Scields, then AoW .. Then Yato's Kings, then AoW again. There was a sizable splinter group of AoW between us. And then the main AoW force in the center of the map.
So, I proposed to both King's and Sci's Tribes, that we team up and go after AoW. I mean, it would have been a perfect set-up, especially when both Kings & The Shields had AoW sandwiched between us. We could have squeezed that group of AoW from both sides, and then went in after them to the center. Done deal! Bye-Bye AoW - Since especially with my influence, having allies that were ready to be Shield in both the West & South!! We essentially would have had AoW surrounded months ago, and could have been chopping away at them from that time on.
But Nooooooo.... this was a problem with Yato / Sci's tribes, because THEY WANTED TO BE THE BIG DOGS on the block calling the shots. Instead of teaming up with us, they were flanking us regularly by doing long-distance nobeling to our North. The North we owned! Then just before both Defiance and Wheel of Time merged, Yato had it in his head that he wanted to take out Wheel of Time .... You see, he had no interest in taking out or fighting AoW ... HECK!!!! ALL HIS BACK CITIES AND ALL OF HIS TRIBES BACK CITIES WERE EMPTY!!! -- THEY WERE NOT EVEN FIGHTING OR WORRIED ABOUT AOW!!!! -- They must have been ALLIED WITH THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --- You see! Idiots!!! Idiots that don't know what the heck you're taking about!! Yato/Kings was ALLIED with AoW! So, where was his hatred of MRAs back then!? Fools! Yato was worried about YATO and that is it!
Sci and Yato conspired to invade either us or Wheel of Time and were positioning for it -- Without worrying about AoW. They wanted to take out The Shields --- So they could run the show! Too bad that SciRel had family issues and had to exit. I mean, heck, SciRel was spending hand-over-fist to get to the size he was (#1 in the world) ... But I guess that's easy when you are a WALLET-WARRIOR ... Taking every barb/idle/etc. you can get your hands on and then propping-up his building of those he took over by constantly buying Gold to then BOOST the surrounding Barbs of each of his new acquisitions! Heck, if I wasn't worried so much about running a Tribe, and then 2 Tribes, and then trying to set up alliances, etc. and then spent money like that, I would have been #1 in the world or at least in the running for it. But I never gave a darn about MY-expansion.. Just my tribe-mates and allies.
Yato then asks us to "secretly" team up with him and attack Wheel of Time.... Even though, Kings, and WoT were in supposed nicey-nice talks about becomming allies (((Because you see, it didn't matter so much WHICH tribe Yato could stab in the back -- Just so long as the other one would help him do it))) .. He wanted either The Shields to go against Wheel of Time, or Wheel of Time to go against The Shields. Not matter to him.. No matter that he was in "talks" (pfft) with both. Trying to play one off the other. LOL!
ARE YOU BEGINNING TO GET THE DARN PICTURE YET!?
Well, Defiance and WoT stayed true to each other and merged to become The Shields, etc.
As Defiance and as The Shields under my control, I never attacked anyone who didn't attack us first!!! Not under MY command. There was no need, enough players/tribes attacked us to keep us busy and in city-acquiring mode for quite a long time as we progressed toward AoW --- and mind you, while were were actively figing GoW/AoW from the start!!!
YOU THINK THIS IS THE END OF THE STORY!! OF THE BACK STABBING AND THE CHEATING!? No, there's more.. much more..
So Yato get's it in his head to keep taking barbs up in our rear AND DEMANDING that he hold onto them - AND DEMANDING that we leave them be up there to grow, etc. -- We proposed allying. We proposed mutual swaps of cities. But no.. He wanted to be on our flank.. After all he had SciRel's to back him up.
So what do they do when we were trying to communicate with them and ally with them??? They attack us ... As they were setting up to do and as we were ready for, as it sure seemed like they were after us. But no problem, we would handle them.
Until, of course --- SINCE THEY COULD NOT DO IT ANY OTHER WAY -- They start to attack 5 different provinces of us, from both the North & the South of The Shields.... But HOWWWWWWWWWW did they do it?? By not only launching zillions of fakes over a period of a weekend.. that was to be expected.. But by then mixing in real attacks (also expected) at real targets... but not by simply muscling their way in -- and using a Paladin to support 1 attack force to go into a city. ... No.. they send 5, 6, 7 full Nukes per city.. From each of their players I mean we saw them coming.. Still No big deal, as any 1 player of their could ONLY have 1 Paladin.. hense all the other attacks would hit only at 50% ... .correct????
NOPE!!!
Low and behold you can throw your Chappel around like a cannon-ball!!!
5-minutes before their Nuke/String / Noble Trains hit.. They set up in 5 provinces by taking over a 33-point city .. and then planted Chapels!! Which CANNOT be destroyed by either Cats or even Sabotage-Spies!!!
So ALL their attacks land at 100%!!!
Now I had about 300+ people under my influence at the time -- Just in the tribes that were under my control (2 of them = merged).. AND NO ONE!!! BUT NO ONE!!! NEW THAT YOU CAN THROW CHAPELS AROUND LIKE THAT!!
Going over the InnoGames/Tribal Wars wiki-- It says that a Chapel can only be built ONCE. It says nothing about being able to DESTROY your own chapel and then to trow it around like wherever you want it, like some kind of rag-doll!!
THEY ATTACKED WITH BUILDINGS!!! -- Heck with troops, or Paladins (which, by the way become pointless in this game due to this Chappel thing)... No, they use 33-point cities, to build Chapels in 5 minutes before all their forces hit. Making all forces hit at 100%!
This means, that ALL the cities, and Barbs on the map are potential weapons against you. --- EVEN THE LITTLE 33-point cities!!
And NOWHERE IS THIS POSTED IN THE OFFICIAL RULES, OR FORUMS, ETC! On the contrary: In the Wiki it says that a Chapel can ONLY BE BUILT ONCE!! And out of 300+ players, NO ONE KNEW THIS!?
Our players, of course, figured out what they were doing, and we complained to InnoGames. But then InnoGames comes back and says, "It's a strategy." ... Why would they say this??? Well because when they first coded this game, they didn't foresee Chapels being used in this way ((( How do I know.. Because I gained inside sources at InnoGames who told me exactly this... and also this:::: That they (Inno) cannot do anything about an obvious EXPLOIT/CHEAT because, of course, that means that ALL THEIR TRIBAL WARS SERVERS, GAMES, ETC. were flawed!! -- And basically think about it.. they would have to admit this HUGE mistake, and then.. Don't forget that this is a BUSINESS for them.. They MIGHT even have to refund all the money that was payed to them while this flaw exists; Then they would have to REVERT every server, etc. --- My friend.. THERE IS NOOOOOO WAYYY INNO IS GOING TO DO THIS OR ADMIT THE TRUTH... THAT THIS IS A FLAW --- AN EXPLOIT AND A CHEAT. -- Nope, not going to revert every server they ever had, and refund all the money they ever took!!! No way in hell. -- Instead, they just say, "It's a strategy." ... Then they are out of hot water. This is how they allow Yato to get away with this.
BUT AGAIN DO YOU THINK THAT ... YET THIS IS ENOUGH!! THAT THIS IS THE WHOLEEEE STORY ... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO UNBELIEVABLY THERE IS MORE...
Once everyone in both of my tribes realize how flawed the game is, they all quit!!! All the biggest and best players .. they cannot deal with BOTH the flaw AND Inno enforcing it. So why waste their time anymore. The game is a dead game. They get out.
Of course Yato thinks that they quit because how "good" he is or how "devastating" his "wonderful" strategy is... Nope, sorry, I was on voice-comms with everyone .. We all talked about this "Chapel Attack" thing, and realized that we were wasting our time with this game. So they all quit. A few remained behind, but it was no were near enough, now, with TONS of cities laying around with no one controlling them.
So, I basically told those who wanted to stay, that I would remain here solely to help them somehow survive, or find another tribe, etc. But that I wouldn't run out on them until they all either quit, or got homes.
So I stayed, in this WRETCHED GAME... For them. For my tribe-mates. Trying to coordinate the un-coordinate-able. Etc.
I personally stopped trying to grow or expand.. Because I too wanted to quit. So I started to dish out my cities to whatever remained of the 300+ people, that was now just a pathetic handful of die-hards, or those that didn't understand the implications of all of this.
I stayed on for quite a few months like this, both trying to get people other places or trying to help them survive. I tried to GIVE-AWAY over 2000+ cities from all of our members in BOTH tribes, to other tribes in the world, but no one wanted them as they were "too far" to try to control.
So, Yato, allied with AoW .. is now trying to feign that he was their enemy all along? LOL! Don't matter either way.
Oh, he SAYS he was trying to help out a little poor tribe that the "big-bad-Shields" were picking on... What a laugh... That tribe changed their name in order to hide from us, but they were AoW all along -- AND HAD ATTACKED US FIRST... Poor cry-baby iFaRMuSir .. and his whining about the big bad Shield who attacked him --- and Yato to his rescue.. yeah right.. give me a break! iFaRMu and his tribe WERE AOW.. AND THEY ATTACKE US FIRST!
Of course in the sick strategy of this game, it behooves a tribe to give false information to other tribes, until they can be trusted. Yato's other cry was that I was a big-bad-Tryrant!! barking orders at everyone, etc. But this kind of information was feed to Yato, BY ME, through others, just in case we wanted to put a spy in his camp... A lone soul, who hated big-bad-RackAttack who ordered everyone around, and was a terrible tyrant... "Oh, Yato, you must save me from RackAttack,,, I just can't leave, because they are all around me, Will you take me in?" -- So this big bad tyrant thing, WAS MY IDEA and feed to the gullible Yato, who still believes it to this day. LOL.. It was done also to AoW, for the same reasons.
Then the "good-cop-bad-cop" routine we played Yato with. Him thinking Juv was a loose "bad-cop" cannon, and me the "nice guy" anti-war person. Another ruse he fell for. (Although, I must admit, it wasn't too far off the truth, as Juv DID want to go to war with Kings, many times, and I DID have to hold him back. So not to far off the truth. But we played it up.)
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