@shrimppuff90 - Yes, you have said this before and it was heard then. I will take most of what you say without question.
@carrot70 - I can see it from your side. It sure looks like the rest of us are sitting at the rim and watching the action.
Allow me to bring another perspective to how this world has progressed. The perspective of a few players who stood together from the start of the world and engaged in battles (not watched from the sidelines, not turtled) and took and lost villages from one group of players from the opposite camp (that largely remained unchanged).
Most of us started off with HNS, and actively fought what was then called A51, later ASH. HNS, TEN and CRS got together and bullied some isolated ASH players. After HNS leadership (Halt Bran basically) left the game the rest of the tribe were forced into a merge with CRS (the players had no choice). Subsequently, CRS leadership (ORIION basically) went ambitious like your leaders and decided to drop the NAP with TEN amidst widespread discontent. We don't know how that would have gone if ORIION carried through with his plans since he disappeared almost immediately. You will notice some parallels with what happened in ASH with Stevo and Holdtight. You will appreciate that with a group of dissenting players who had just moved in from other tribes, PHX had no chance of taking things forward when 'the man with a plan' did a disappearing act.
Simultaneously the ASH-TEN merge also happened.
It is at this time that the leader of TFT, Gordonia came forward and said he was happy to take in our gang of ASH-fighters with the purpose of finally bringing some action to his tribe. It matched our 'vision' statement. It started to work, it our early days in TFT we saw some successes working together (a 'Southern Resistance' if you will...) until .. Gordonia, Hardkekz and Aquadrat disappeared as well. I will concede that it has been downhill after that.
You might be wondering how the fortunes of one small group of people is relevant to anything in the larger perspective of the world's politics.
The relevance lies in the rarity of finding a group of active players in this game whose loyalties have not changed since the realm started. (Tribe banners may have changed, but we have had the same group of players on our side fighting another consistent group of players on the other side)
@shrimppuff90 I said I'll agree with most of what you said. Here's what I don't agree with :
"PHX just sitting there, turling, recruiting refugees etc. " PHX scarcely existed. For the 1 month or so it was together, nobody agreed with anything. So you got annoyed for nothing really
. But to be fair to Carrot and co, there was no way they could have know it.
Also - We never said you cheated. Our little group would have been happier to go down fighting a war rather than losing it diplomatically like this. That's all.
@carrot70 We were not watching the action and turtling. While I don't want to name my friends here without their permission you are free to check my conquer history. I have enjoyed my battles against JupiterX, Ext3rminator (the double agent) , Wonderboyninja (the other double agent), TrueAchilles, Golf150, Brady-, random murders and some other ASH players.